Saturday, August 22, 2020

Re: [SgFreecycle] salvation army commercialised?

 

Salvation Army has the support of a lot of churches and religious rich individuals from all of its local linked networks to internationally. That is the reason why they had became so huge since centuries ago. Salvation Army is a multi-international private religious society which started from many centuries ago to spread its religion.

We all here are not that type of rich spoilt people but people who appreciate hardship of things made. However, when donation involves money, it will also invite greediness from ones who are too less determined. Singapore had been spoilt with too low corruption and straight forward world.
Singapore also has the best helpful heart with the sincerest heart if compared to other counties but this does not mean we do not have bad people. What I meant is we have less bad people in comparison.

From my experiences after travel so much and saw too much bad things, I can advise you this.
1. Never donate or help anything from oversea because lots of them have so much bribery, corruptions from up to down.
2. Never start a conversation with these people from oversea that claimed there are donations company even they are from religious places. They are well-trained networks to psycho you and they have kinds of stuff to hypnotize you. 
3. Even your friend introduced them to you, avoid and give up on your so call a friend because your friend had been badly psycho and it is too late to help even with their families.
4. Freecycle and only a few websites in Singapore seen safer but the others (like found in Facebook) are advised to keep away because they involved many corruptions.
5. If you find that recycling or donations website do sell something, then I advise you to keep away because selling always invite corruptions internally.
6. Covid-19 had enabled many kind souls to donate but a lot of those so call advertised company are very shady. Even the government cannot control them because this is a very complicated process that involved too many parties.
7. Most important, donate only to local trusted companies that had been around some time and they must only benefit to the local society. If you cannot help the local, why talk about another country because these are all nonsenses. We still have lots of hidden poverty families because it is for any country to reveal its own bad images. Furthermore, it is very difficult for these families to get help from the government with the processes are very tiring and moral damaging.

Good Luck everyone to happy recycling.


On Friday, August 21, 2020, 01:50:25 PM GMT+8, Francis Ong francis_oht@yahoo.com.sg [SgFreecycle] <sgfreecycle-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


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My 2 cents' worth of thoughts...

I donate items frequently to Salvation army and I know they outsource their operation to some 3rd party many years ago, but I still donate. The reason is because I do not want to see usable items gone wasted. By donating to Salvation army, I know that some money will does into doing good and at the same time, usable stuffs get recycle. 

While it is also good to give free, the only problem is some people who got free item will not really treasure it and will just discard it easily since it is "free"..


-Francis

On Friday, 21 August 2020, 12:44:34 pm GMT+8, EC Tan tanec0@yahoo.com [SgFreecycle] <sgfreecycle-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

The reason is valid, it's just how much of a cut the 3rd party gets. Similar to situations when charities use 3rd parties to sell donation tickets.
One thing we can do to help is to drop off our smaller stuff at Salvation Army, instead of asking them to collect.

On Friday, 21 August 2020, 12:04:46 pm GMT+8, Thomas BS Tan tanbst@gmail.com [SgFreecycle] <sgfreecycle-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

hi Khoon.

Here is my friend's reply...

My take is that due to difficulty in getting employees to do manual work,  carrying and sorting.  Also the rise in cost of maintaining and owning transport (trucks)
It may be more practical to outsource the collection and sorting to 3rd party. 

"Cut from it" maybe charges for service rendered.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:26 AM s n refconsk@yahoo.com.sg [SgFreecycle] <SgFreecycle-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi

Can someone tell me if this is true.

I was told salvation army now outsources its donated items collection n sorting and thrift shop to 3rd party, they get a cut from it, started the last few years.

My intended donations to salvation army was for their use and profit, not 3rd party

khoon

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